[Ahmad-Qadri]

Salam Alaikum,

I would like to inquire in this thread the various routes through which classical and orthodox Islamic knowledge & scholarship came to the subcontinent.

I am talking VERY STRICTLY about the PRE Barelvi-Deobandi era.

In another thread, brother Sunnistudent said:

Sunnistudent said:

Shah Abdul Haq muhaddith(rd) was the first to start hadith teaching and propogation in the subcontinent. Few other muhaddithen of the subcontient did have ijaza in hadith from Arab scholars before Shah Abdul Haq got it, but those scholars did not start any madarsa to teach hadith or no systematic teaching was srated .The great grand father of Shah Abdul Haq muhaddith dehalvi migarted from Bukhara region to India.

I am curious about the place of Mujaddid Alf Thaani rahimahullah in all of this. Did he learn his Islamic sciences, including hadith, outside of subcontinent? I know he was present in the era of the filthy king akbar (whom the nonMuslims of the subcontinent propagate as the best Muslim king of India, when in fact he was an apostate because he started his own din "Din-e-Ilahi").

I am interested to know how Islamic knowledge flourished in the subcontinent, in what manner and through what chains?

I guess the solid starting point would be the era of Islam starting to enter India during the era of the pious Delhi Sultanate which precluded the generally indulgent and unIslamic period/rule of the Mughals. However, my brief knowledge tells me the last emperor Aurangzeb was dedicated to Islam and respected knowledge and scholars and that Fatawa Alamgiri was compiled during his times; which is quite a comprehensive manual of Hanafi fiqh for the subcontinent and an invaluable teaching aid and resource manual for both Barelvis and Deobandis to this day.

I know pious awliyaa like Khwaja Moinuddin Chishti and Data Fareeduddin Ganj Shakar and Hazrat Sultan Bahu rahimahumullah (and all the rest of the awliyaa) are the lighthouses of wilayah in the subcontinent, once again revered greatly and passionately by both Barelvis and Deobandis universally. I am curious about their mashayekh, ijaza's, and other such matters detailing the flow of superior Islamic knowledge into the subcontinent.

Anyone who knows more on this topic of the spread of classical and orthodox Islamic knowledge in the subcontinent, please contribute here.

Jazak Allah

[speedy]

Salamu alaykum,

Some information regarding scholarship in the subcontinent pre-barelwideoband:

http://www.sunniforu...ead.php?t=38443

[speedy]

salamu alaykum,

is there any connection between Mujaddid alf-thani and Shah Waliullah?

[adam talha]

something relevant
http://www.marifah.n...-sub-continent/

[Timur]

Ahmad-Qadri, on 19 February 2009 - 08:02 AM, said:

I am curious about the place of Mujaddid Alf Thaani rahimahullah in all of this. Did he learn his Islamic sciences, including hadith, outside of subcontinent? I know he was present in the era of the filthy king akbar (whom the nonMuslims of the subcontinent propagate as the best Muslim king of India, when in fact he was an apostate because he started his own din "Din-e-Ilahi").

Shaykh Ahmad Sirhindi received his early education from his father Shaykh Abd al-Ahad and then went to Sialkot, at present in Pakistan, to study advanced texts under individual scholars. He then spent some time with Akbar's courtier "Shaykh" Abu'l-Fazl ibn Mubarak but I don't think it was for educational purposes.

[absalih]

speedy, on 03 January 2010 - 09:25 PM, said:

salamu alaykum,

is there any connection between Mujaddid alf-thani and Shah Waliullah?

YES,There is.(In the Naqshbandi Order of Sufism )
The Silsila is
1)Hazrat Shah Waliyullah Muhaddis Dehlawi.QS_(d.1176. AH)
2)Hazrat Shah 'Abdu Rahim Dehlawi.QS_(d.1131.AH)[Shah Sahib's own Father]
3)Hafiz Sayed 'Abdullah Akbarabadi.QS
4)Shaykh Sayyed Adam Binnauri.QS(d.1053.AH)[Founder of Ihsaniyyah-Naqshbandiyyah]
5)Imam Rabbani Mujaddid e Alf Sani Shaykh Ahmed Sirhindi.QS(d.1034.AH)

A Net Silsila
24. HAZRATH HAJA AL IMAMUR RABBAI MUJJADID ALFADANI ASSHAIK AHMAD SIRKINDIL FAROOKI RAZIALLAHU THALA ANHU.

25. HAZRATH HAJA SHAIK ADAMUL BANOORI RAZIALLAHU THALA ANHU.

26. HAZRATH JAMIU MALHARANIS SUBHANI HAFIZ KALAMUR RAHMAN HAJA SAIYIED ABDULLAH RAZIALLAHU THALA ANHU.

27. HAZRATH SAIYIDI SAH ABDUR RAHIMI SUFI QUADIRI KADHASILLAHU SIRRAHUL AZEEZ

28. HAZRATH SAIYIDI SAH WALIYULLAH MUHADID DIHLAWI SUFI QUADIRI KADHASILLAHU SIRRAHUL AZEEZ

http://sufimanzil.or...abandi-mujadidi

This post has been edited by absalih: 18 July 2010 - 03:28 AM